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opened 2024-01-14 14:18:08 -06:00 by jimmyb · 6 comments

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2024-01-14 14:18:08 -06:00

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Originally posted by: Miles_Edgeworth

I was thinking it might be helpful for game profiles to have a section that links to profiles of other games that are directly connected to it. For example, prequels, sequels, spin-offs, etc. could all be listed to make things convenient for anyone who's interested in games connected to one they really like. I'm sure this would be really helpful for series like, say, Final Fantasy with so many different main games as well as spin-offs, especially with people like me who have hardly played them and are pretty much clueless to the series and all it has to offer.

**Originally posted by: Miles_Edgeworth** I was thinking it might be helpful for game profiles to have a section that links to profiles of other games that are directly connected to it. For example, prequels, sequels, spin-offs, etc. could all be listed to make things convenient for anyone who's interested in games connected to one they really like. I'm sure this would be really helpful for series like, say, Final Fantasy with so many different main games as well as spin-offs, especially with people like me who have hardly played them and are pretty much clueless to the series and all it has to offer.

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jimmyb commented

2024-01-14 14:18:17 -06:00

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Originally posted by: Jessikitax

It would be useful, but with all the prequels/sequels/spin-off/DLC/expansions/collections/remakes/etc AND the available platforms, it could get quite messy with some series. If there is a way to pull it off that doesn't look bad then it would be awesome.

However, I think just searching for the series tittle like "Final Fantasy", "Dragon Quest" works good enough, and if/when we get alphabetical sorting it would be more organized.

**Originally posted by: Jessikitax** It would be useful, but with all the prequels/sequels/spin-off/DLC/expansions/collections/remakes/etc AND the available platforms, it could get quite messy with some series. If there is a way to pull it off that doesn't look bad then it would be awesome. However, I think just searching for the series tittle like "Final Fantasy", "Dragon Quest" works good enough, and if/when we get alphabetical sorting it would be more organized.

jimmyb commented

2024-01-14 14:18:23 -06:00

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Originally posted by: Miles_Edgeworth

That's a good point. Ultimately though it could be sufficient to only link up the games that are either very closely connected or directly in chronological order.

Admittedly it's pretty simple to follow the order of series like FF where the main games go by numerical order, but when it comes to those other series with more elaborate titles, or say the Tales of series where first glance will in no way tell you the order of the games, it might be nice to at least have an idea of game order and relations. It's no good to buy a game only for you to realize that you have to buy another 5 to truly appreciate it after all.

**Originally posted by: Miles_Edgeworth** That's a good point. Ultimately though it could be sufficient to only link up the games that are either very closely connected or directly in chronological order. Admittedly it's pretty simple to follow the order of series like FF where the main games go by numerical order, but when it comes to those other series with more elaborate titles, or say the Tales of series where first glance will in no way tell you the order of the games, it might be nice to at least have an idea of game order and relations. It's no good to buy a game only for you to realize that you have to buy another 5 to truly appreciate it after all.

jimmyb commented

2024-01-14 14:18:45 -06:00

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Originally posted by Vilkathewolf

This is how MAL does it. It does look a little cramped but it could work. If theres over 10 or 20 spinoffs or something you could add a "Read More" tab. I don't know much about MySQL and html but I'd want to help wherever I can ^.^

**Originally posted by Vilkathewolf** This is how MAL does it. It does look a little cramped but it could work. If theres over 10 or 20 spinoffs or something you could add a "Read More" tab. I don't know much about MySQL and html but I'd want to help wherever I can ^.^

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jimmyb commented

2024-01-14 14:19:05 -06:00

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Originally posted by Vilkathewolf

I made this, it doesn't look too crowded. i mean for final fantasy 1 you wouldnt list all the sequels, only ff2. so?...

**Originally posted by Vilkathewolf** I made this, it doesn't look too crowded. i mean for final fantasy 1 you wouldnt list all the sequels, only ff2. so?...

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jimmyb commented

2024-01-14 14:19:13 -06:00

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Originally posted by bergdoll

Okay so I have one major issue with this suggestion, or at least the MAL variant that Vilka is suggesting (sorry bro!).

Namely, this is a massive unprecedented undertaking with little to go by. No other gaming site has a MAL-style relation system, meaning that our puny little team would be the first to begin mapping out the sequel/prequel/spin off/remake-hierarchy for all of gaming. Aside from the ludicrous amount of time this would take (while we're still struggling with filling up the database with games mind you) there's also the issue of figuring out the relations between games. So Halo and Final Fantasy are easy enough, right? We have played them and know them well enough to tell how their hierarchy should be. But what about the remaining thousands upon thousands of games out there, some of which we will never have heard of. Other sites will be of little help, descriptions don't always lay out the exact relation to remaining games, relying on the users for advice will only take you so far etc. How do you tell direct sequels like Halo 1-2-3 from alternative settings like Final Fantasy 1-2-3 despite them being numbered the same way if the description or wikis doesn't mention what they are? Play them to make sure? Guess until the users corrects us? No, I don't think this will be worth the hassle.

My suggestion is that we scale this project back to just having a franchise-tag, kinda like gamefaqs. That way we can at least group franchises together without having to figure out the specifics, and we'd also have other sites as a blue-print. The pages for these tags could be sorted by release date to at least give an idea of the release order. How about that?

**Originally posted by bergdoll** Okay so I have one major issue with this suggestion, or at least the MAL variant that Vilka is suggesting (sorry bro!). Namely, this is a massive unprecedented undertaking with little to go by. No other gaming site has a MAL-style relation system, meaning that our puny little team would be the first to begin mapping out the sequel/prequel/spin off/remake-hierarchy for all of gaming. Aside from the ludicrous amount of time this would take (while we're still struggling with filling up the database with games mind you) there's also the issue of figuring out the relations between games. So Halo and Final Fantasy are easy enough, right? We have played them and know them well enough to tell how their hierarchy should be. But what about the remaining thousands upon thousands of games out there, some of which we will never have heard of. Other sites will be of little help, descriptions don't always lay out the exact relation to remaining games, relying on the users for advice will only take you so far etc. How do you tell direct sequels like Halo 1-2-3 from alternative settings like Final Fantasy 1-2-3 despite them being numbered the same way if the description or wikis doesn't mention what they are? Play them to make sure? Guess until the users corrects us? No, I don't think this will be worth the hassle. My suggestion is that we scale this project back to just having a franchise-tag, kinda like gamefaqs. That way we can at least group franchises together without having to figure out the specifics, and we'd also have other sites as a blue-print. The pages for these tags could be sorted by release date to at least give an idea of the release order. How about that?

jimmyb commented

2024-01-14 14:19:22 -06:00

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Adding back discussion tag since @bergdoll does bring up a good point. This would definitely be a massive undertaking. Definitely doable, but it would be a lot of work. That said, it shouldn't stop us from doing it, it's just something we can tag as a project, no due date.